Arc / Rarity / Loot bug

hello everbody .

I have the feeling arc is "bugged" when it comes to rarity / quantity calulations.

Arc can bounce 2 times i got the feeling when the inital cast hits the enemy (Merveil) it counts with the quantity gems AND rings/armor
BUT when arc chains to a second enemy and BACK to the boss i made the observation that the last hit doesnt count ANY of the rarity stuff even not from my armor


i made some tests with arc and rarity 205% quantity 30% ,
180 without rarity support gem
tested 3 hours merivil , 5 minutes per run .

it comes out if the Inital chain hit Merveil she pop 4 yellow + (sometimes too much for the invent )
if the second or third Arc Chain hit her - she pops out 1 yellow
same as Merveils daughter or other mobs.

further testing will be done if someone confirm/denie this feeling ;)
Please if anybody "feels" the same , or has some advice for me give some infos here .


Witch : HaleJesus LVL 82 Arc Summoner
SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
pls forgive my gibberish space orc english - its not my native language
Last edited by HaleBopp#0969 on Mar 31, 2013, 7:52:25 AM
This thread has been automatically archived. Replies are disabled.
last bump for US timezone.
Witch : HaleJesus LVL 82 Arc Summoner
SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
pls forgive my gibberish space orc english - its not my native language
Last edited by HaleBopp#0969 on Mar 16, 2013, 10:22:16 PM
Will actually bump this, since it feels to me if the bug exists for arc it should also affect lightning arrow, fork, chain and a lot of other abilities. A response would be greatly appreciated :)
\o
hello again , since alot of people describe problems with rarity and i checked it now with merciless tidal island - where my arc doesnt chain to anything at "halraike" , but im standing far away - which also pops NO yellow at all . with around 200 IIR at arc .

at merivil still got the same bug even at close range with the second bounce of arc . (espacially at merivil im solo - No zombies/No spectre/no skeleton

since alot of us feel this i ll connect it with the others . pls respond since mine is a little "older" and may be involved with the other 2 since they are summoners .

i can confirm his map therory as well with - no rare at all.
since this forum post is a summoner with arc its involved with my post
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/297544

and yes i noticed it since i do hailrake with my minions cuz of his icespear at decent distance
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/298889

since i make more than one hailrake runs and my own lvl is 75 my zombies dont die which fit to this one .
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/293805

its already confirmed with culling strike ... which i use with hailrake
and some ppl have this feeling on rarity gem
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/13796

Spoiler

"
Trancemaster wrote:
"
Zark wrote:
"
F4ll0u7 wrote:
Did anyone make the experience that the combination of Item Rarity+Item Quantity ( in my case combined with Arc) wont drop ANY items?

I spam Arc to make 100%sure Arc gets the killing blow, but only 1 out of 15 monsters drops an item.
I experienced that without this combination Items drop more frequently.

Not sure if this is something personal and I may be crazy, but that is how it appears.

I have the same feeling. I'm sure I get significant less items with a my arc witch, then my ranger. So many champions and rare monsters just doesn't drop anything.

Could there be a problem with shocked status, eg. the dmg from arc alone is not enough to kill the mob, but it has 3x shocked so the dmg is increased, the mob dies, but rarity and quantity increases are not calculated because the initial dmg was not high enough to kill the mob?

Another possibility could be the chain mechanic, does the rarity/quantity bonus work when a mob dies as the last one in a chain line?


That is a good question. I have felt that aswell, killing a rare and nothing is dropping and you are going "wt.?"

I'm a summoner with arc, so I can't really tell who's last hitting but it have happend many times that a rare is not dropping anything at all. Seems strange according to me.


pls response to this because now its alot people who feel - the initial "feeling"
Witch : HaleJesus LVL 82 Arc Summoner
SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
pls forgive my gibberish space orc english - its not my native language
hello again

now with a pic . taken from a orange mob (hailrake tidal island)
killed with a "Arc culling strike" chained from another mob.
The Results after rly alot of runs - my witch from lvl 65-73 ,templar from 65 - 69
Evertime i got something - 2 blue items - 1 yellows , in every lvl run with less rarity.

Now i got 1 flask and 1 white item with 209% rarity. my templar with less rarity gets more yellow and he uses another skill(incinerate) .



at the screen hailrake my rarity and his drop.






Pls since the starting date is the First of the rarity bug posts. Count the others in to this one.
Witch : HaleJesus LVL 82 Arc Summoner
SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
pls forgive my gibberish space orc english - its not my native language
I also feel the same, but I also believe my base rarity/quantity works, and doesn't get the additional bonus when I use Rarity/Quantity gems on Arc. Could easily be confirmation bias.
I can't believe OP has been farming "merivil" for hours, and still hasn't noticed that it's "Merveil".
Maybe that's your problem. Try farming "Merveil" and see if you have any more success.

Trolling aside, here's my point: if you fail to correctly observe a name that's probably been on your screen for the best part of a few hours, then it's likely that any other data you present is unreliable. From a statistical viewpoint, such blatant errors invalidate anything you present.
maybe the post is too long to read for you . including redirection to other posts ....

its not about my typing a name or only MY feeling . i researched long enough to point out alot necro / arc users feel the same so pls give some good information thx
Witch : HaleJesus LVL 82 Arc Summoner
SpectreGuide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/292391/page/1
pls forgive my gibberish space orc english - its not my native language
Noticed the same things using a Shadow Summoner using Arc. It's pretty hard to test so I have no data to share.


"
Herpy_Derpleson wrote:
Trolling aside,


As far as I can see, you didn't stop trolling.

Tech guy
Last edited by Warrax#2850 on Apr 10, 2013, 10:04:47 AM

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info